Whilst on first glance, you might think this may not apply to you, there is great award availability for a potential larger trip encompassing Bali, New Zealand and/or Dubai.
Emirates is the largest foreign airline servicing Australia, carrying almost one out of every ten passengers in and out of the country. In this guide, we explain why using your Qantas Points on Emirates flights to New Zealand, Southeast Asia, Dubai and beyond is a great option.
And it isn’t hard—here’s a quick look at the Emirates route network, the kind of pricing to expect, and how to go about researching and booking points availability with ‘EK’.
New Auckland – Bali – Dubai route from June
Emirates have instituted a lot of changes to their New Zealand flights over the past year.
Firstly, they axed their Sydney – Auckland flight in July 2017 and in March, their services to Auckland from Melbourne and Brisbane will also disappear. That leaves their only Trans-Tasman flight as Sydney – Christchurch.
These flights are/were one of the easiest ways to redeem 54,000 Qantas Points one-way for an excellent First Class experience.
So it’s good news even for us in Australia that Emirates will launch a second daily service between Auckland and Dubai, stopping in Bali.
It’ll be flown by a Boeing 777, with First Class Suites:
and Business Class in a 2-3-2 configuration. I’m generally not a fan of the layout but, admittedly, it may actually appeal to those travelling as a family on this holiday route.
Whilst this new service is targeted mainly at those residing in NZ, for us in Australia, I see two uses:
You could do a triangle trip between Australia, Bali and New Zealand, using 60,000/90,000 Qantas Points for the one-way flight from Bali to Auckland in Business/First Class (the other two flights would need to be booked separately).
If award availability from Australia to Dubai is restricted, you could fly another airline like Qantas, Virgin Australia or Garuda Indonesia to Bali and then use the same amount of points as above to fly between Bali and Dubai.
It seems that availability through Qantas Frequent Flyer is wide open on for all classes on almost all dates.
Of course, Emirates flies from all five major Australian cities direct to Dubai but if you are keen to try Emirates First or Business Class closer to home, you might also consider flying Sydney to Bangkok or Melbourne/Brisbane to Singapore.
With thanks to Point Hacks NZ Managing Editor Daniel for his input.
The Emirates route network and fleet
Emirates have an extensive route network servicing Australia:
|From||To||Frequency and aircraft|
|Sydney||Dubai||2x daily on A380|
|Sydney||Christchurch||1x daily on A380|
|Sydney||Bangkok||1x daily on A380|
|Melbourne||Dubai||2x daily on A380 and 777; both A380 from 25 March 2018|
|Melbourne||Auckland||1x daily on A380 (discontinued from 25 March 2018)|
|Melbourne||Singapore||1x daily on A380|
|Brisbane||Dubai||1x daily on A380; increases to 2x daily from 1 December 2017 (1x A380 and 1x 777)|
|Brisbane||Auckland||1x daily on A380 (discontinued from 25 March 2018)|
|Brisbane||Singapore||1x daily on 777|
|Perth||Dubai||2x daily on A380 and 777|
|Adelaide||Dubai||1x daily on 777|
Note that some Emirates A380 flights in other regions can sometimes operate a configuration without a First Class cabin, cramming in over 550 Economy seats, but that isn’t applicable to flights into and out of Australia.
Emirates First and Business Class products
Emirates First Class is one of the best in the world and there isn’t much difference between the actual seat on the Airbus A380 and Boeing 777 but the latter does lack an onboard shower and bar.
The tradeoff is that there are only eight First Class seats on the 777 compared to almost double that (14) on the A380, so you may receive more attentive service on the older aircraft.
Business Class is where there is a big difference. The A380 is set up in a 1-2-1 configuration and all beds are lie-flat:
whereas the 777 has angled-flat seats in a much more cramped 2-3-2 configuration:
Note that Emirates have unveiled a First and Business Class products on its 777 fleet but the rollout will be very slow, so it is much more likely you will be flying on one of the two aircraft above.
New Emirates 777 First Class
Qantas Points pricing for Emirates flights
Emirates is a key joint venture partner for Qantas so the points pricing for Emirates flights when using Qantas Points is the same as if you were flying with Qantas on the same route.
Of course, Qantas don’t fly many of the routes that Emirates fly—that’s why they are partners—but that pricing is equivalent, unlike many of Qantas’ oneworld airline partners like Cathay Pacific or British Airways, which would be comparatively more expensive.
You’ll need to look at the Qantas Point redemption tables to see the full list of prices – look at the Qantas Classic Flight Reward which is valid for Qantas, Airnorth, Air Vanuatu, American Airlines, Emirates and Fiji Airways flights.
The simpler way to calculate points pricing though is to use Qantas’ own points calculator, which you can find here.
Here are some of the price-points for the key routes mentioned above:
|Route||Qantas Points Needed - One Way|
|Economy||Business Class||First Class|
|Australia - NZ, e.g. Sydney - Christchurch||18,000||36,000||54,000|
|Australia - Asia, e.g. Melbourne/Brisbane - Singapore||28,000||60,000||90,000|
|East Coast - Dubai||45,000||90,000||135,000|
|Adelaide - Dubai||40,000||80,000||120,000|
|Perth - Dubai||35,000||70,000||105,000|
With Emirates, it can absolutely make sense (in terms of travel time and routings) to fly beyond Dubai and travel onwards to Europe (definitely), Africa (especially North and Central African countries), South or North America (especially if departing from the Aussie West Coast, or travelling to the US East Coast).
For the longest multi-flight itineraries (over 9,601 miles, up to 15,000 miles) you will spend a maximum of 128,000 Qantas Points in Business Class or 192,000 Qantas Points for Emirates First Class.
So that’s for itineraries (with no stopovers) such as:
- Sydney – Dubai – New York
- Melbourne – Dubai – London
- Perth – Dubai – Rio de Janeiro
Taxes and fees are comparable to what you’d pay for a Qantas flight redemption – so they’re not cheap.
When you shouldn’t use Qantas Points to fly with Emirates
Where you won’t be able to use Qantas Points effectively to fly with Emirates is, of course, where it doesn’t make economical sense to do so in terms of time and points spent. Outside of Bangkok and Singapore to North and Southeast Asian destinations or China, or from the Aussie East Coast to US West Coast, for example.
As a result, if you spot a good deal on a paid Economy fare, that’s probably going to be better value than using points for Economy travel (as it will include the taxes in the price you’re paying). That’s not to say using points for Economy flights is never good value—in some cases, it definitely can if paid fares are high on a particular route or in peak periods.
But this is why we focus our best uses of points on Business and First Class – as paid fares are much, much higher in those cabins, so while you need more points to redeem for them, you’ll get a much higher value cents per point value out of your points – and it’s a much more fun way to travel too, if you can earn and save the points with this in mind.
How to research and book Emirates flights using Qantas Points
All this information is well and good, but you need to be able to act on it and make the purchase. Thankfully, Qantas.com is generally an excellent search tool for Emirates award flights.
I prefer starting by going straight to the Qantas.com multi-city search tool here, regardless of whether I am searching for a multi-city itinerary.
Make sure you check the box to show “Classic Flight Reward cities”, and to “Search Classic Flight Rewards”.
If you want a flexible date search, check that box too – but this can be annoying if you aren’t actually flexible with your dates, as it adds an extra step to get to the actual flight results.
On clicking Search, you’ll then be prompted to log in with Qantas Frequent Flyer account credentials, and then you can start seeing flight results. In this example I am looking at Sydney to Dubai in just a few weeks time.
Flights that begin with the EK airline code, e.g. EK419, are operated by Emirates. Qantas.com also clearly states this, and has a small Emirates logo icon in the results too.
Something you should look at closely, especially when searching for Sydney and Melbourne departures, is the number of stops on the routes returned. This is in small text near the flight details.
With Emirates operating flights from Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane to Dubai that also stop in Southeast Asia, if you want to go to Dubai or beyond then those one-stoppers are not desirable – unless you feel like ‘maximising’ your time and fun in Emirates Business or First Class.
From here, if you have enough Qantas Points in your account you can then get a quote for the taxes and fees along with the required points. If you don’t have enough points in your account yet, give Qantas a call to find out and scope out the additional costs so you’re fully prepped.
Qantas, to their credit, have made using Qantas Points for Emirates flights very simple and attractively priced compared to their own flights as a key Qantas Frequent Flyer partner.
Targeting your points earn strategies and redemption goals toward Emirates flights to Asia, Europe, New Zealand or even the US is a great way to maximise the return from your Qantas Points.