How to be the first to fly Qatar Airways’ Qsuites from Sydney/Canberra

How to redeem points for travel on Qatar Airways from Australia

GUIDE: Using Points
DIFFICULTY: Intermediate
TIME TO READ: 6 minutes
POSTED: June 12, 2018
UPDATED: June 13, 2018
LOYALTY PROGRAMS: Qantas Frequent Flyer, Cathay Pacific Asia Miles, American Airlines AAdvantage

The nation’s capital will get one of the world’s best Business Class products from next month. Here is how to book an award seat.


In this guide

Part I of this guide explores the different Business Class offerings between the 777, A380 and A350.

In Part II, we’ll go into detail on redeeming Qantas Points, Asia Miles and AAdvantage miles for travel from Australia to Doha and beyond.


What to expect from Qatar Airways Business Class

‘Qsuite’ product from Canberra via Sydney

Since February, Qatar has been flying from Canberra to Doha, making a one-hour stop in both directions in Sydney.

Currently, this route carries the old Boeing 777 Business Class product in a 2-2-2 configuration:

However, four times a week from 1 July and daily from 1 August, this route will be upgraded to Qatar’s updated 777-300ER aircraft.

The Qsuite features sliding privacy doors, much like you can currently experience in Singapore Airlines and Emirates First Class Suites as well as on Korean Air’s Boeing 747-8i aircraft.

The two middle seats convert into a double bed, again just like in Singapore Airlines First Class Suites.

And there are removable row dividers in the middle row to convert four adjacent middle seats into a family room.

As we see it, the pros are:

  • a high level of privacy for solo travellers
  • a more intimate flying experience for couples, groups and families
  • beautiful finishing touches

The cons could be:

  • slightly more cramped seat due to an increase in overall space with addition of door
  • family room is great for families but could be a noise concern for solo travellers
  • no inflight wifi

Sydney-based travellers are able to choose between this service and the daily A380 flight, however, Qatar does not have rights to transport passengers solely between Canberra and Sydney on this flight.

There is limited award availability on this flight, with 1-3 Business Class seats available departing Sydney only on the following dates for the rest of the year:

  • 15, 18 and 31 October
  • 5, 6, 8 and 15 November

As of mid-June 2018, Qsuites can be found on flights between Doha and London, Paris, New York, Chicago, Houston and Shanghai.

If you are going to use Asia Miles for a redemption, it is best to do this before 22 June, as new partner pricing will be announced then.

A380 services from Sydney, Melbourne & Perth

On the A380 (as well as onward flights from their Doha hub to destinations served by the Airbus A350 and Boeing 787 Dreamliner), Qatar has a herringbone 1-2-1 configuration in Business Class:

Qatar Airways 787 Business Class 1

Qatar Airways 787 Business Class 2

There is also a full-service onboard bar on the A380:

QR A380 Bar

First Class is available on A380 flights but not on other aircraft. Qatar First Class award redemptions can be hard to come by but, if secured, are a great use of Qantas Points.

Qatar First Class Suite

Qatar First Class Suite Lie Flat

In addition to these three Australian services, Qatar also operates A380 services to Bangkok, Guangzhou, London and Paris.

Review: Qatar Airways A380 First Class

A350 service from Adelaide

Qatar was the first airline to fly the A350, launching its Doha-Adelaide service in May 2016.

The A350 has 36 fully-flat beds stretching to 203cm when flat with a 17-inch personal entertainment screen, as well as a seemingly airier cabin with large windows.

As opposed to the A380’s full-service bar, the A350 has a self-service snacks and drinks bar:

Review: Qatar Airways A350 Business Class

Old 777 product

Qatar is progressively replacing this product, which served Perth until April 2018, with a 2-2-2 lie-flat-bed configuration.

It is probably a slight improvement in seat offering than Qantas’ similar layout on their A380s and refurbished 747 aircraft, but inferior to the other Qatar offerings above.

Review: Qatar Airways 777 Business Class

Qatar’s route options from Australia to Europe

Qatar Airways Australia - Europe 2 201509

Qatar Airways fly direct from Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide and Perth to Doha, connecting to a multitude of European cities, including Amsterdam, Athens, Barcelona, Belgrade, Berlin, Brussels, Bucharest, Budapest, Copenhagen, Edinburgh, Frankfurt, Geneva, Larnaca, London, Madrid, Manchester, Milan, Munich, Oslo, Paris, Rome, Sofia, Stockholm, Venice, Vienna, Warsaw, Zagreb and Zurich.

Researching award availability for Qatar Airways redemptions

Qatar Airways flights show up in the British Airways booking engine, and then, of course, also in Award Nexus. You can book seats online with Qantas and Asia Miles but you have to phone up if you want to use AAdvantage miles.

Using points/miles to book from Australia on Qatar Airways using points

Here’s a summary of the main oneworld program costs for the Australia flights Qatar operates to Doha (in Business Class):

FromQantas PointsAsia MilesAAdvantage miles
Perth92,00070,00080,000
Melbourne104,00070,00080,000
Adelaide104,00070,00080,000
Sydney104,00085,00080,000
Canberra (via Sydney)104,00085,00080,000

Using Qantas Points

Qantas charges 104,000 Qantas Points for one-way Business Class on the Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Canberra routes, which is more expensive than the comparable Dubai flights flown by Qantas or Emirates at 96,000 points.

The same case applies to Perth, with Qantas charging 92,000 points from Perth, which is 8,000 points more than it costs to fly to Dubai on Emirates. Qantas passes on full taxes and surcharges too.

If you are flying all the way on to Europe with no stopover, you’ll get more out of your Qantas Points by aiming for a redemption on Qantas/Emirates flights as this will come in at 128,000 points in total.

By comparison, partner award costs are pieced together flight by flight, costing you Australia to Doha, plus the cost of the flight from Doha to your final destination.

Using Asia Miles

Asia Miles award charts are distance-based, with Sydney to Doha falling into the more expensive Zone E and the other three destinations into the cheaper Zone D.

For Asia Miles redemptions in Business Class from Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne to Doha, flights cost 70,000 Asia Miles one-way, or 120,000 miles return.

Flying from Sydney or Canberra costs 85,000 Asia Miles in Business Class one-way, or 145,000 miles return.

If you are not flying from Sydney or Canberra as your starting point (e.g. from Brisbane, Cairns, Hobart), it may be worth booking your Qatar Airways redemption from Adelaide, Melbourne or Perth, instead of Sydney or Canberra, when redeeming Asia Miles, and tagging on a paid, connecting domestic flight to one of the three.

Asia Miles also pass on all taxes and surcharges on partner redemptions, so out-of-pocket costs in cash will be similar to using Qantas Points.

Using AAdvantage miles

Qatar Airways is probably one of the better uses of AAdvantage miles for Australian travellers, given the better-than-average redemption availability.

While AAdvantage only lets you redeem miles for travel between Australia and Europe on Etihad with two separate awards, Qatar will let you redeem with one award.

This means that you can take advantage of the reduced cost of 85,000 AAdvantage miles one-way in Business Class to Europe, or 80,000 AAdvantage miles to Doha. Granted, these amounts were increased substantially from 60,000 and 45,000 miles respectively in AAdvantage’s March 2016 points devaluation.

By comparison, AAdvantage redemptions on Etihad will be much higher as you will need to redeem two awards, one to Abu Dhabi (80,000) and another to Europe (42,500) = 122,500 in total.

AAdvantage miles are typically best picked up in a miles purchase promotion. The guide to AAdvantage miles purchases is here, along with a detailed overview of redemption options to Europe.

Summing up

It’s great to have Qatar flying from five Australian cities (hopefully Brisbane will get service in the near future too) and adding some competition on the Middle East routes, especially with Australian travellers being able to experience their newer aircraft.

Asia Miles and AAdvantage award redemptions on Qatar seem to represent the best value for flights to Doha and beyond to Europe, with Qantas Points making more sense for connections through Dubai with Emirates.

Supplementary images courtesy Qatar Airways.

How to be the first to fly Qatar Airways’ Qsuites from Sydney/Canberra was last modified: June 13th, 2018 by Matt Moffitt